Perhaps you’ve heard about the four-hour workweek. Well, a lot of us have come to realize that it’s kind of hard to come by. Even Tim Ferriss, author of The 4-Hour Work Week, has said that it maybe wasn’t the best title for his book. Because even with passive income coming in, you still have to do work to maintain things. Four hours is probably out of the question for most of us—but what about a four-day workweek? That’s three days for a weekend, four days of work, then rinse and repeat.
In fact, this has become the norm in places like Iceland, where 85 percent of workers are working just four days a week. And guess what? They still get paid the same, and productivity is up. So the question is, when is this going to happen in the U.S.? Well, the truth is it can happen right now if you are an entrepreneur and you control your own time. And even if you’re not an entrepreneur, you can still make this happen if you’re smart about it and willing to have the right conversations with your own employer.
Thankfully, my good friend Joe Sanok from Practice of the Practice might have a path forward for us. Joe has a new book coming out called Thursday is the New Friday, How to Work Fewer Hours, Make More Money, and Spend Time Doing What You Want. * And he’s joining the podcast today to tell us all about how he’s made this approach work for himself and his business. He’s not “at work” very much anymore, but he’s still doing so much to help people and making good money as a result. So, if you’ve ever felt overworked or that you’re putting too much time into something and not getting a lot of results back, there’s a lot of great stuff in this episode for you.
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Today’s Guest
Joe Sanok
Joe Sanok is the author of Thursday is the New Friday (HarperCollins) releasing Oct 2021.
He is a keynote and TEDx speaker, business consultant, and podcaster. Joe has the #1 podcast for counselors, The Practice of the Practice Podcast. Joe is also a writer for PsychCentral, has been featured on the Huffington Post, Forbes, GOOD Magazine, Reader’s Digest, Entrepreneur on Fire, and Yahoo News. He is the author of five books and has been named the Therapist Resource top podcast, consultant, and blogger.
Joe helps private practitioners to find innovative ways to start, grow, and scale a private practice. He is also the founder of Podcast Launch School, a curriculum that teaches new podcasters how to attract amazing guests and monetize their podcast in nine months.
You’ll Learn
- How a conversation at Joe’s college freshman orientation laid the path to Thursday Is the New Friday
- The history of the 40-hour workweek—and why it’s not set in stone
- Why Joe looks at his business like an organism, not a machine
- How he eventually got to working just five days a month
- How a one-minute break can make you more productive for an hour
- What it’ll take for Thursday to become the new Friday more widely
- How slowing down can help entrepreneurs “optimize their brain” and get more out of life
